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  • Wayne 3:36 pm on October 7, 2011 Permalink |
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    Thanks to everyone for sharing their approaches for online course development and delivery. It was very helpful for me to reflection on the techniques and think about how they might impact the decisions we make going forward in order to “contribute to” and “learn from” the community. Based on the presentations I started to try to dissect why and how separations from the current LMS were occurring. What was the challenge or limitation that created the need to adapt?

    I created a draft spreadsheet starting to explore the needs of the eLearning tool. It would probably make sense at some point to compare this with the criteria and features of the candidates for the new LMS. If you think this would be valuable to develop further, I welcome collaborators. Send your google info and I’ll share the doc with you.

    http://bit.ly/eedc-eTools

     

  • Wayne 11:25 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink |
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    Do the groups who use an external CMS (like Drupal or Plone) have a process for deciding to use interactions in the CMS? Discussions, quizzes, rating systems. There is great potential, but it also could be a support nightmare.

     

    • Cathy Holsing 4:31 pm on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We consider each course on a case-by-case basis. For example, the course I showed today had discussions within the Plone environment rather than in ANGEL. One reason we decided to put them there is because they were not going to be formally graded by the instructor, so one of the main advantages of ANGEL discussion boards (ease of grading) was not an issue.

    • bto108 11:40 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      My main question is, will this reduce the time it takes to set things up for the instructor / ID and improve the interaction for the student. We could make an awesome live-blogging tool but if the administrative overhead is insane in setup semester to semester / interaction to interaction then there’s no point in us doing it.

    • Cole Camplese 11:27 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s a good question … maybe we can jump start this as a conversation here? I can send it out to the group as a link to this thread.

      • mvd103 12:46 pm on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Great point. And I also wonder what degree of liberty do groups give faculty members to edit content directly. We struggle with that using MT5 as a platform – do you give faculty members free reign to add content, or do you provide a template that they must follow? Or is it somewhere in between? Our struggle is balancing the need to maintain continuity between courses in a program, for example, vs giving faculty members the freedom to truly own course design. Is there a balance? Is there consensus?

        • Amy Garbrick 2:25 pm on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          For us, access rights depend on the course site and instructor. Drupal is very granular — so it is easy to give whatever level of right you are comfortable with. Rights can be by page, section, site, whatever.

  • Cole Camplese 11:12 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink |
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    Stevie Rocco and Annie Taylor set to discuss the College of Earth Mineral Sciences’ approach to eLearning design and development.

     

    • mvd103 12:56 pm on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Is there ever an issue with faculty members wanting control over when content is available to students? One of the benefits we’ve found of using Angel as a gateway to our external course content is that there is no learning curve involved in having an instructor unhide a link to the next lesson, etc. on their own. Has anyone else had issues with this? The issue crops up more often than I would prefer when talking to faculty about migrating content from ANGEL to an external content manager..

    • Wayne 11:28 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Using CMS to create “one minute essay” for students to submit and faculty to provide feedback.

    • Cole Camplese 11:23 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Use YouTube … have had problems with our U-wide streaming server. Most of their content is OER so it is ok.

      • Brad Kozlek 11:30 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If instructional content is increasingly for a global audience, do we need to make sure it is delivered via some kind of CDN.

    • Cole Camplese 11:22 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They don’t use the go to link to deep link into ANGEL — just to the front of ANGEL.

    • Cole Camplese 11:16 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “People who are used to online life, are used to going from website to webiste.” In response to not keeping everything in one place.

    • Allan Gyorke 11:16 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      OER focus means that they need to host their content outside of ANGEL so it can be seen by anyone.

    • Cole Camplese 11:14 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They use Drupal and one of the first adopters of ELMS.

      • Cole Camplese 11:20 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Faculty members work very closely with the ID team to build on templates or shells — ID should not be in the way of the faculty and let them to really guide all the interactions. Their faculty find the tools easy to use.

      • Cole Camplese 11:20 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Course shells all follow the Quality Assurance standards at PSU.

  • Cole Camplese 10:54 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink |
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    Cathy Holsing getting set to share their approach to eLearning in the College of the Liberal Arts..

     

    • cjh145 1:27 pm on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Here is a link to view the presentation.
      http://tinyurl.com/3heclfl

    • Cole Camplese 11:08 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      3 Learning Designers, programmer/multimedia developer, 2 ID assistants on the team.

    • Cole Camplese 11:07 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They have a dedicated Plone developer and are WebLion partner (http://weblion.psu.edu)

    • Allan Gyorke 11:03 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This seems to be a natural trend – ANGEL is the starting place and is used for some interactions, but content is external (Drupal, Plone, YouTube, HTML) as well as other specialized interactions (VoiceThread, VMHost, publishers’ content) and communication and collaboration (blogs, Google Docs).

      • bto108 11:06 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        so angel is being used as an index that links them off to where the resources are actually housed?

        • Cole Camplese 11:06 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          That is the idea — ANGEL as the hub.

        • Allan Gyorke 11:07 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          But not ONLY an index. It is still used for functions that it does well, such as quizzing. In some cases, that includes discussion boards as well.

        • bto108 11:07 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          anything to suggest this trend will continue and the next LMS will quickly become a HUB as well?

        • Allan Gyorke 11:13 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          Definitely, although how easy that is to do (e.g. deep linking to certain tools) will depend on what we select.

        • Brad Kozlek 11:14 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          I don’t know if there is another system that could fill the role of the hub, or if this should be a separate system. Maybe being the hub is the core function of the LMS?

        • bto108 11:18 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          kind of how I view the lms. people know to go there to get to us (or where ever). It also does quizzing and discussion boards but those seem like they could be replaced with other tools as well. Discussion Boards are so infrequently used outside of education and tech communities anymore it seems 🙂

    • Chris Lucas 11:02 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Learning Activities done through ANGEL, Plone, Blogs, Voicethread, Websites, Google Docs, Publisher’s content, etc.

    • Brad Kozlek 11:02 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      there is a homegrown calendar program

      • Stevie Rocco 11:03 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’d be interested in seeing more on that–we’re currently populating ANGEL’s calendar ourselves. Anything that makes it more automated would be good.

    • atb3 11:01 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Idea for another eEd meeting – units sharing their homegrown apps, particularly if they are things that other units can “borrow”

      • atb3 11:03 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        …and maybe a referatory somewhere so we can keep track of those?

    • Cole Camplese 11:00 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They use Plone as the backend to their design, development, and delivery toolset.

    • Brad Kozlek 11:00 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They are using plone as the cms for course content. Instructors can have access to edit material.

    • Stevie Rocco 10:59 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      ANGEL used as a gateway interface for the courses. Calendar, syllabus kept in ANGEL. Also used for grading, quizzing, etc.

    • Stevie Rocco 10:58 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Design courses in a way that will be good for everyone–both traditional-aged and adult learner.

    • Cole Camplese 10:57 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They also offer quite a few general education — one course needs to meet the requirements of a varied audiences.

    • Cole Camplese 10:56 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Over 60 eLearning courses in the College of the Liberal Arts in various formats. Some are courses are part of in-house programs, some are part of inter-College programs, some developed by World Campus.

  • Cole Camplese 10:39 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink |
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    Amy Garbrick from IST talking about how they use Drupal to manage their instructional design and development mode.

     

  • Cole Camplese 10:13 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink |
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    World Campus talking about “Evolution.” It is their system for eLearning design and development.

     

    • Allan Gyorke 10:43 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m happy to see things like the intro video from Matt Jackson. Overall, the WC system seems much more streamlined from the faculty and staff perspectives. I also like that their templates look great and have been approved by their accessibility staff.

    • Wayne 10:40 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder how traditional students respond to courses designed for adult audiences. Do you have data comparing the two audiences?

      • Chris Lucas 10:44 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Great question, especially with more residential students taking online classes.

    • Cole Camplese 10:28 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Students access content via ANGEL, but they see only the content interface … they’ve integrated ANGEL tools into their own interface.

      • Cole Camplese 10:30 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They use the same vocabulary as ANGEL, but they do not use the actual tools — example being “Lessons” … all content comes from outside ANGEL.

    • Chris Lucas 10:25 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Faculty have different levels of access to modify the content—determined by the department.

    • Cole Camplese 10:24 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder if there are any units at PSU using this system other than World Campus?

    • Cole Camplese 10:21 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “Adult students want information in the same place … they don’t want to be looking around for it.” Consistency counts in a huge way.

    • Chris Lucas 10:20 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      2 Levels of quality assurance are done. All new courses and revised courses go through the second level which looks at it from the end-user perspective and checks accessibility.

    • Cole Camplese 10:17 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Evolution also tracks all copyright management issues.

    • Cole Camplese 10:17 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      All course templates are vetted through their accessibility expert.

    • Cole Camplese 10:16 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      QuickBase is also used for help desk ticketing. Design team uses the help tickets to make improvements to the courses. It also allows for trending — common issue monitoring.

    • Cole Camplese 10:14 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They take advantage of QuickBase to bring much of the overall administration of the course into one place.

      • Chris Lucas 10:15 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Help Desk info is captured which helps designers in the development of future courses.

        • sxr133 10:18 am on October 5, 2011 Permalink

          I wonder if help desk data is captured in Quickbase for courses not designed by WC, too. Would be interesting to see the data.

  • Cole Camplese 11:47 am on September 20, 2011 Permalink |
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    The October eEducation Council meeting has been scheduled for Wednesday, October 5 from 10:00 – 11:30 am in 118 Wagner. If you plan on attending by video-conferencing please provide me with the location no later than Tuesday, September 27th.

     

  • Cole Camplese 11:17 am on August 31, 2011 Permalink |
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    October 2011 Agenda 

    The eEducation Council meeting has been scheduled for Wednesday, October 5 from 10:00 – 11:30 am in 118 Wagner. If you plan on attending by video-conferencing please provide me with the location no later than Tuesday, September 27th.

    So much to look at and so little time. We are changing the format of eEducation for the 2011-2012 academic year. Instead of taking up our face to face time with a series of updates, we will focus our 90 minutes on topical discussions. We have added a series of short updates to review prior to the meeting for you to view whenever you want. Leave comments or add new posts about any of these items.

    We will spend the majority of the time looking at various eLearning Content Management strategies from across Penn State. A general overview of the use of eLCMS tools will be provided and then various organizations will do short presentations to expose their approaches. Our goals are to have a deeper understanding of the use of these tools, to better understand common workflows, and to identify areas potential overlap and collaborations.

    Agenda

    • Brief overview of new eEd format and web space — Cole Camplese
    • Brief overview of eLearning Content Management thinking — Cole Camplese
    • Brief overview of the World Campus approach to eLearning Content Management — Andrea Gregg, Eleanor Lehman, Lynne Johnson
    • Brief overview of the College of IST’s approach to eLearning Content Management — Amy Garbrick
    • Brief overview of the College of the Liberal Art’s approach to eLearning Content Management — Cathy Holsing
    • Brief overview of the College of Earth and Mineral Sciences’ approach to eLearning Content Management — Stevie Rocco and Ann Taylor
    • Brief overview of the College of Arts and Architecture’s approach to eLearning Content Management and design philosophy — Keith Bailey
    • General thoughts and ideas going forward — Conversation Lead by Keith Bailey

    If you have additional thoughts for the agenda please leave a comment to this post or start a new thread using the tag, September 2011.

     

    • Allan Gyorke 10:22 am on October 4, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If we want to leave lots of time for discussion, each update will have to be pretty concise – maybe 5-7 minutes each?

    • Keith Bailey 2:49 pm on September 7, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      At the end of this discussion, I would love to see the learning design community form an ad hoc task-force focused on establishing common needs and requirements for an instructional content management system for the University. Are there common set of best practices that can be included in such a system with the hope of enabling a wider adoption of best practices with online courses? Are there common learning design approaches which can be standardized across the University which will help with the perceived issue for a need to develop “a common look and feel” for online courses? How can the PSU Online Quality Standards be used as a spring board to help influence the technical requirements of an instructional content management solution for the University? These are just a few questions a task-force could grapple with.

      • Cole Camplese 4:35 pm on September 7, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Keith, this sounds like an excellent context to wrap up our conversation at the meeting. I placed you last on the agenda so maybe you can kick off that discussion with the remaining time?

      • axg251 9:00 am on September 8, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        An area I’m really interested in seeing us discuss along with this topic, Keith, relates to the differences and similarities from the learner perspective of participating in online (or blended/hybrid) courses as a resident student and participating in online courses as a truly distance adult learner. I think the line is increasingly blurred but I also think it’s important that we explore, again from the learner perspective, possible similarities and differences.

      • Wayne 9:55 am on October 3, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        A conversation about design processes and the tools used to implement will be very helpful. It would be great to identify where we can invest local resources in areas that 1) can be adopted and built upon by other departments and 2) identify common challenges to be considered for university wide solutions. I’m looking forward to participating in the group and hopefully contributing to the task-force.

        • Cole Camplese 11:00 am on October 3, 2011 Permalink

          Couldn’t agree more! Looking forward to the discussion … please make sure you press us to think of all of PSU!

    • Cole Camplese 12:13 pm on September 7, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Amy Garbrick, from the College of IST has agreed to share their approach to elearning content management and delivery!

      • Cole Camplese 12:13 pm on September 7, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Cathy Holsing, from the College of the Liberal Arts has agreed to share their approach to elearning content management and delivery!

      • Cole Camplese 12:13 pm on September 7, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        World Campus is in for a presentation of their process and approach to elearning content management and delivery!

      • Cole Camplese 12:13 pm on September 7, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Keith Bailey from Arts and Architecture is in for a presentation of their process and approach to elearning content management and delivery!

    • Allan Gyorke 4:41 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We’re having a staff meeting next week and I’m thinking about doing something similar (after talking to you about it). We’ve been thinking so hard about “flipping the classroom”, it might be time to take that approach to our meetings.

    • wlm103 3:50 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I like your idea for the new design as well. I’m looking forward to the first meeting.

    • atb3 1:15 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Count me in! I love this approach…much more productive!
      -Annie

    • tmc210 1:05 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Cole,
      I read your email and thought it might be Christmas already. I am 100% on board with this. If there is anything or anyway that I can help, please let me know.

      Thank you!

      Tess

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